Sunday, July 15, 2012

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James Baldwin said it best: 

"For these are all our children, and we will profit by or pay for whatever they become."

A Big Education Ape Nite Cap


Mittens. « Fred Klonsky

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Mittens. « Fred Klonsky: Mittens. by Fred Klonsky

Louisiana Turnaround: Year One - Teacher in a Strange Land - Education Week Teacher

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Louisiana Turnaround: Year One - Teacher in a Strange Land - Education Week Teacher: Louisiana Turnaround: Year One by Nancy Flanagan If you're a regular reader of *Teacher in a Strange Land*, you know I've been closely following a turnaround school in Louisiana this year. I had the rich experience of doing professional development work with the staff--at the very beginning, when a potent stew of wariness and possibility filled the room, and a midpoint workshop where trust had taken root and teachers were sharing their beliefs about good teaching, even if it wasn't the party line... more »

What the Bushies “Fail to Acknowledge” | Scathing Purple Musings

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What the Bushies “Fail to Acknowledge” | Scathing Purple Musings: What the Bushies “Fail to Acknowledge” by Bob Sikes While the *Ocala Star-Banner *published the effort of Jeb Bush mouthpiece Matt Lander this morning, editor Brad Rogers clearly doesn’t agree with him. Writes Rogers: What Ladner and his associates fail to acknowledge, though, is what has been sacrificed in the name of FCAT success. Huge numbers of children have been denied electives so they can be warehoused in remediation classes, decimating bands, athletic teams, and what’s left of our music and art programs. S... more »

Point of View: Involve teachers, parents in schools | jacksonville.com

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Point of View: Involve teachers, parents in schools | jacksonville.com: Point of View: Involve teachers, parents in schools *Posted:* July 14, 2012 - 12:06am | *Updated:* July 14, 2012 - 2:17am During his visit to City Hall Tuesday night, Florida Education Commissioner Gerard Robinson listened to citizens and managed to drive nearly all his responses back to the theme on which we all agree: We must improve educational outcomes for all of our children. In a state where the dominant education reform narrative has flipped public dialogue like a tidal wave, it’s important to take stock... more »

Growing Up in the South, 3 « Diane Ravitch's blog

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Growing Up in the South, 3 « Diane Ravitch's blog: Growing Up in the South, 3 by dianerav I posted two other reminiscences of growing up in the South in the years before the Brown decision was implemented. I reiterate that I am not suggesting that there is less segregation today than there was in the 1950s; there may be even more. But so much was qualitatively different, and I find it valuable to recall what the qualitative differences were. There were no black mayors or Congressmen, no blacks on television or in the films. All public (and private) facilities in the South were se... more »

Schools Matter: Where your tax dollars are going: More testing

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Schools Matter: Where your tax dollars are going: More testing: Where your tax dollars are going: More testing by skrashen Sent to the Los Angeles Times, July 15 “… the relentless emphasis on covering tested material” with the resulting de-emphasis on creative and critical thinking, so necessary in today’s world (“Education's pendulum: Thinkers or test takers?, July 15), is going to get worse. The reaction of the US Department of Education to the excessive testing demanded by No Child Left Behind is to do it harder: Test more grade levels, more subjects, and add interim tests. ... more »

IRS Examining Charter Schools and the for-profit tax consulting firms are rubbing their hands in delight | Dailycensored.com

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IRS Examining Charter Schools and the for-profit tax consulting firms are rubbing their hands in delight | Dailycensored.com: IRS Examining Charter Schools and the for-profit tax consulting firms are rubbing their hands in delight by Danny Weil *Rothgerber Johnson & Lyons LLP has a team of attorneys dedicated to serving all aspects of charter school operations, from formation, to tax qualification, to charter school financing, to personnel and operational issues.* A reader sent the following article about IRS scrutiny of the financial management of charters, especially for-profit... more »

Mother Crusader: What's The Cost Of Four Cyber Charters in Newark? $17.5 Million.

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Mother Crusader: What's The Cost Of Four Cyber Charters in Newark? $17.5 Million.: What's The Cost Of Four Cyber Charters in Newark? $17.5 Million. by darciecima Yesterday we took an in-depth look at how Benjamin Rayer was able to get a his cyber charters approved. Today I want to take a look at how the state managed to push FOUR cyber charters through, all in the same city, including one that will ultimately serve the whole state but initially pulled all of the start-up funds from Newark. Before we get started, let's look at where the NJDOE *couldn't* get one through, and wh... more »

Utah Public Forum on the Common Core | Truth in American Education

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Utah Public Forum on the Common Core | Truth in American Education: Utah Public Forum on the Common Core by chascherrie Public Forum on Common Core (July 10, 2012) in Utah This video features the following four presentors: Emmett McGroarty from the American Principles Project Dr. Bill Evers from the Hoover Institute at Stanford Jamie Gass, Director of the Pioneer Institute Kent Talbot, Former counsel to the DoEd under G.W. Bush Popout

Where is Penny Pritzker? Too much of an embarrassment for Obama but not for Rahm. « Fred Klonsky

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Where is Penny Pritzker? Too much of an embarrassment for Obama but not for Rahm. « Fred Klonsky: Where is Penny Pritzker? Too much of an embarrassment for Obama but not for Rahm. by Fred Klonsky This morning’s New York Times answers the question, “Where in the world is Penny Pritzker?” Penny headed up President Obama’s fund-raising operation in the 2008 campaign. But in appears that this time around she has pulled back or has been pushed aside because she is simply too much of an embarrassment to the Obama campaign. For nearly three years the family-run Hyatt Hotel chain has been ... more »

Weekly Update: The KIPP charter school hustle, eight year olds grading their teachers in Georgia and more on Bill Gates | Seattle Education

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Weekly Update: The KIPP charter school hustle, eight year olds grading their teachers in Georgia and more on Bill Gates | Seattle Education: Weekly Update: The KIPP charter school hustle, eight year olds grading their teachers in Georgia and more on Bill Gates by seattleducation2011 *The Weekly Update: News you might have missed.* With Initiative 1240, the charter school initiative backed by Bill Gates who has provided $1M to the cause, looking like it will be appearing on the ballot this fall, more folks are starting to talk about charter schools in our state. Fortunately the wor... more »

Jersey Jazzman: Virtual Cronies

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Jersey Jazzman: Virtual Cronies: Virtual Cronies by Duke Darcie Cimarusti, in a stellar bit of reporting, breaks down the cronyism behind the approval of two "blended learning" charter schools that rely heavily on online learning for their education model. Despite the reports fromPennsylvania, Ohio and the rest of the nation about corruption, exorbitant prices, and poor results from cyber charters, New Jersey seems determined to plow ahead. Why is that? Why don't we put the brakes on these questionable schools, as NJ Assemblyman Patrick Diegnansuggests? Why not take the time to... more »

Why Administrators Don’t Care about Content-and Why It Matters « Diane Ravitch's blog

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Why Administrators Don’t Care about Content-and Why It Matters « Diane Ravitch's blog: Why Administrators Don’t Care about Content-and Why It Matters by dianerav A reader responds to our discussion about the importance of content and explains how administrators matter in relation to content. If they are indifference to content it shapes their vision and their behavior: *I am a professor of educational administration and I’m struck by how little content area knowledge is required to become a principal or superintendent. Standards related to administrator certification seldom (if ev... more »

The Negro Motorist “Green Book” 1949 |

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The Negro Motorist “Green Book” 1949 |: The Negro Motorist “Green Book” 1949 Posted on January 7, 2011 | 14 Comments This is new to us: The Negro Motorist Green Book is the subject of today’s “Little-Known Black History Fact.” The Negro Motorist Green Book was a publication released in 1936 that served as a guide for African-American travelers. Because of the racist conditions that existed from segregation, blacks needed a reference manual to guide them to integrated or black-friendly establishments. That’s when they turned to “The Negro Motorist Green Book: An International Travel ... more »

Bartenders Push Tougher NCLB | Mr. Teachbad

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Bartenders Push Tougher NCLB | Mr. Teachbad: Bartenders Push Tougher NCLB FAKE EDUCATION NEWS –Atlanta, GA In a rare foray into edu­ca­tion pol­icy advo­cacy, the National Bar­tenders Asso­ci­a­tion (NBA) will begin lob­by­ing mem­bers of Con­gress next week for a tougher rewrite of the Bush-era national edu­ca­tion law, *No Child Left Behind*. As orig­i­nally writ­ten and passed in 2001, NCLB man­dated that 100 per­cent of chil­dren be pro­fi­cient in read­ing and math by 2013. Speak­ing from the group’s head­quar­ters in Atlanta, David Craver, pres­i­dent of the NBA, told *Teach... more »

Stand Together for our Children

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Stand Together for our Children: 19th Ward Parents Organization: Promoting Quality Education for All Quote of the Week: “Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” -Margaret Mead About Us We are residents of the 19th ward in Chicago fighting for a quality education for all students. Our Work We work together to ensure a quality public education for all students in CPS, while reaching out to other groups who share our vision. Whether you’re ready to lend a hand at one of our events, you ne... more »

Why the Big Investment in Hardware? « Diane Ravitch's blog

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Why the Big Investment in Hardware? « Diane Ravitch's blog: Why the Big Investment in Hardware? by dianerav Con Academy Browse Con Academy library of over 3,100 educational videos... The Broad-trained superintendent of Huntsville, Alabama, has purchased 22,000 laptops and iPads for the students in the district. This is the same superintendent who contracted to send recalcitrant students to live in a teepee until they learned to behave. The laptops and iPads are being readied for use this fall. Nothing has been said about the curriculum that these machines are supposed to teach/fac... more »

Secular group chides Georgia school district for ‘lack of respect for the First Amendment’ | The Raw Story

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Secular group chides Georgia school district for ‘lack of respect for the First Amendment’ | The Raw Story: Secular group chides Georgia school district for ‘lack of respect for the First Amendment’ [image: Female High School student (Flickr/Casey Lessard)] Topics: freedom from religion foundation ♦ Houston County Schools ♦ school mottos The Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) has called on a school district in Georgia to prevent teachers and other officials from promoting Christianity to their students. “School-aged children are a captive audience,” the group wrote in a let... more »

Daily Kos: Time as Capital: The Rise of the Frantic Class

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Daily Kos: Time as Capital: The Rise of the Frantic Class: Time as Capital: The Rise of the Frantic Class byplthomasEdDFollow Share2 PERMALINK1 COMMENT Imagine a world where time is capital. This is the dystopian future of 2161 brought to film by Andrew Niccol's *In Time* (2011)—triggering some powerful parallels to *Logan's Run* (both the original novel from 1967 and thefilm adaptation in 1976). Both *Logan's Run* and *In Time* expose the human condition in terms of age and mortality—in the first, life ends at 30, and in the latter, people stop aging at 25, but at a price, which ... more »

L.A. Times Writes Shockingly Good Editorial On Schools — With Convenient Amnesia | Larry Ferlazzo’s Websites of the Day…

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L.A. Times Writes Shockingly Good Editorial On Schools — With Convenient Amnesia | Larry Ferlazzo’s Websites of the Day…: L.A. Times Writes Shockingly Good Editorial On Schools — With Convenient Amnesia July 15, 2012 by Larry Ferlazzo | 0 comments 2 The Los Angeles Times, the paper guilty of pioneering extraordinary moral lapse of publishing teacher’s value-added ranking (see The Best Posts About The LA Times Article On “Value-Added” Teacher Ratings) just published a shockingly good editorial titled Education’s pendelum: Thinkers or test takers? After warning that countries that ou... more »

Energy, Power and the Leader-sphere - Arlington, VA, United States, ASCD EDge Blog post - A Professional Networking Community for Educators

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Energy, Power and the Leader-sphere - Arlington, VA, United States, ASCD EDge Blog post - A Professional Networking Community for Educators: Energy, Power and the Leader-sphere Have you ever thought about the difference between energy and power? We use them interchangeably when discussing fuel, but not so much when discussing people. Energy is the availability of power, and power is the ability to get things done. Today’s young professionals expect to be both energized and empowered, and organizations are quickly morphing to meet the challenge and the opportunity. Consider it in t... more »

The Collapse of Florida’s Test-Based Accountabilty Regime Has Reached Stage Two | Scathing Purple Musings

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The Collapse of Florida’s Test-Based Accountabilty Regime Has Reached Stage Two | Scathing Purple Musings: The Collapse of Florida’s Test-Based Accountabilty Regime Has Reached Stage Two by Bob Sikes St. Lucie County Superintendent of Schools, Michael Lannon isn’t happy with Florida’s school grade system. From reporter Kelly Tyko of *Scripps Treasure Coast News*: “The manipulated testing, judging and accountability culture that has developed in Florida is now so greatly politically driven that I believe the (state board of education) and (Department of Education) have destroyed ... more »

Lighting a Fire or Filling a Pail? « Diane Ravitch's blog

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Lighting a Fire or Filling a Pail? « Diane Ravitch's blog: Lighting a Fire or Filling a Pail? by dianerav Carol Corbett Burris posted a critique of the Relay Graduate School of Education here. Robert Pondiscioquestioned Burris’ metaphor about “lighting a fire” rather than “filling a pail,” on the assumption that she does not care about the content of the curriculum. My view: Curriculum matters; resources matter; poverty matters; and teachers should be free to use the teaching style that works best for them. And I still doubt the validity of a “graduate school of education” that has... more »

Rahm's school budget assault | SocialistWorker.org

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Rahm's school budget assault | SocialistWorker.org: Rahm's school budget assault [image: Teachers and parents picket outside a Chicago Board of Education meeting] Facing a contract showdown with teachers, Chicago school officials announced a budget that targets the CTU while draining schools of resources, reports Lee Sustar. FACED WITH demands for a pay increase for teachers and a call to fully fund its planned longer school day, Chicago Public Schools (CPS) officialsresponded with a budget that calls for educators to work longer for less, funnels money from neighborhood schools t... more »

An Urban Teacher's Education: Gearing Up for Save Our School Convention DC 2012

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An Urban Teacher's Education: Gearing Up for Save Our School Convention DC 2012: Gearing Up for Save Our School Convention DC 2012 by James Boutin *The following was cross posted at* @ the chalk face. Last year, Save Our Schools hosted a phenomenal conference in Washington DC. I wrote about my experiences there here, here, and here. Like-minded people from across the country coalesced around their distrust of policies that make no sense when you see them through the eyes of those they're supposed to serve: students. Privatization, school-choice, Teach for America, the dismantlin... more »

Missouri Education Watchdog: Sunday Education Reform Comic Strip that Isn't Funny...and The Sunday Education Weekly Reader 07.15.12..

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Missouri Education Watchdog: Sunday Education Reform Comic Strip that Isn't Funny...and The Sunday Education Weekly Reader 07.15.12..: Sunday Education Reform Comic Strip that Isn't Funny...and The Sunday Education Weekly Reader 07.15.12.. by stlgretchen Featuring a Sunday comic that isn't funny or "for the kids". Welcome to the Sunday Education Weekly Reader for 07.15.2012. We are highlighting a cartoon from archcomix.com highlighting education reform issues. I picked it up from GF Brandenberg's blog: * * *Instead of attempting to reproduce the entire cartoon here, let me give yo... more »

Education reform's dilemma: Improving creative thinking or improving test scores - latimes.com

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Education reform's dilemma: Improving creative thinking or improving test scores - latimes.com: Education's pendelum: Thinkers or test takers?Rote learning can take a toll on building creativity in schools. The nations that can strike the right balance will gain a competitive edge. - [image: print] - Comments 0 - Email Share - - - [image: Johnny Cochran Middle School] Aiming higher on academics shouldn't have to mean leaving deeper or more open-ended thinking skills behind. Above: A pre-algebra Math 7 class at Johnny Cochran Middle School in ... more »

Realism in New Jersey: Can We Face It? « Diane Ravitch's blog

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Realism in New Jersey: Can We Face It? « Diane Ravitch's blog: [image: Click on picture to Listen to Diane Ravitch] Realism in New Jersey: Can We Face It? by dianerav My favorite New Jersey blogger, known as Jersey Jazzman, is a teacher and one smart guy (I’m assuming he is a guy because of his moniker, which is not Jersey Jazzperson or Jazzwoman). He has written a very important post. I urge you to read it carefully. It reflects on where the reform movement is heading in his state, and for that matter, nationally. He looks specifically at Newark, which has been a focal point fo... more »

Star Watch: Cyberschools multiply but scores fall short | Indianapolis Star | indystar.com

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Star Watch: Cyberschools multiply but scores fall short | Indianapolis Star | indystar.com: Star Watch: Cyberschools multiply but scores fall shortThere's little accountability in state's fast-growing system Con Academy Browse Con Academy library of over 3,100 educational videos... During the 2008-09 school year, 370 students in Indiana were enrolled in K-12 schools that offered all or at least some of their classes over the Internet. Last school year, it was more than 4,000 -- a number that is expected to double or even triple over the next couple of years. The explosion in on... more »

Teachers Working with Teachers: School Districts (Part 3) | Larry Cuban on School Reform and Classroom Practice

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Teachers Working with Teachers: School Districts (Part 3) | Larry Cuban on School Reform and Classroom Practice: Teachers Working with Teachers: School Districts (Part 3) by larrycuban Occasionally, school systems cultivate both professional development across their districts and school-based learning communities focused on instructional improvement. In Pittsburgh (PA) in the early 1980s, for example, Superintendent Richard Wallace closed a high school with low test scores and declining enrollment and re-opened it as a magnet school for students and training center for the distric... more »

Schools Matter: GUEST POST: The Factory Store, Douglas Storm

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Schools Matter: GUEST POST: The Factory Store, Douglas Storm: GUEST POST: The Factory Store, Douglas Storm by P. L. Thomas The Factory Store by Douglas Storm or Telling Lies to Children, or Education in America. So, do you remember when you were a child and someone asked you, “What do you want to be when you grow up?” I don’t either, but let me ask differently, have you asked any child this? This magical, mystical, and ultimately mystifying question was answered once, and to my mind definitively, by Bill Watterson in Calvin & Hobbes:

Happy Good Time Emotion Response Place and School - southbronxschool.com

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http://www.southbronxschool.com: Happy Good Time Emotion Response Place and School by noreply@blogger.com (Bronx Teacher) I know of a school in NYC, can't say where, but the elementary school is going ultra liberal in its response to discipline issue that is ruining it. The school will be officially known as the Happy Good Time Emotion Response Place and School. What does this mean? The Crack Team here at SBSB was able to obtain a copy of the FAQ that put answered questions staff members might ask of the new system of discipline. This FAQ was sent out to staff members and we here a... more »

Missouri Education Watchdog: Common Core Standards and Sofas. Slipcovering vs Reupholstering Education.

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Missouri Education Watchdog: Common Core Standards and Sofas. Slipcovering vs Reupholstering Education.: Common Core Standards and Sofas. Slipcovering vs Reupholstering Education. by stlgretchen Can we slipcover or do we need to reupholster education? We just had our sofa recovered and it looks fabulous. The "bones" of the sofa were good. It was just the outside fabric that was old and tired and needed to be replaced. We didn't have to strip the sofa down to its wooden frame and use new stuffing and material for the sofa to be useful. This analogy of sofa stuffing and slipcover... more »


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